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Does anyone have an opinion on these calibers? I currently own a 300 win mag but thinking of switching to the WSM. Good move or bad? I only use the rifle for moose/bear. Is there much price difference in bullets?
300 win mag VS. 300 WSM
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I have a 300 WSM in a Browning A-Bolt stainless Stalker. I use to have a 300 win mag in the Remington Model 700 deluxe.
The 300WSM is shorter, faster action, and lighter. The bullets start at $35 per box at Canadian Tire.
I use 180 grain Super X winchester bullets. The range is the same as the 300 Win mag.
Just the weight savings alone made me switch over to the Browning in the 300WSM. But watch out cuz many of the 300WSM out there are pretty much the same weight but Browning definitely has a light one. I like to walk and sit. The gun I have now is by far my best choice.
The 300WSM is shorter, faster action, and lighter. The bullets start at $35 per box at Canadian Tire.
I use 180 grain Super X winchester bullets. The range is the same as the 300 Win mag.
Just the weight savings alone made me switch over to the Browning in the 300WSM. But watch out cuz many of the 300WSM out there are pretty much the same weight but Browning definitely has a light one. I like to walk and sit. The gun I have now is by far my best choice.
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WSM = Lighter /shorter gun.
I dont have 300wsm, but have the browning stalker in 7mm wsm.
I also have a browning a-bolt in 300win mag, the stalker is definitly nicer to haul throuht the woods.
though for reloading - for using the heavier bullets the 300 win mag has the edge IMO.
WSM cases (a least in 7mm) are good for the medium weight bullets, but the long heavier projectiles tend to seat to deeply into the cases.
Unless you are trading the 300win mag, i dont see any real benefit to have both(300wsm and 300win mag).
Have you thought about perhaps a 270wsm .. that would make a good addition to the family..
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I dont have 300wsm, but have the browning stalker in 7mm wsm.
I also have a browning a-bolt in 300win mag, the stalker is definitly nicer to haul throuht the woods.
though for reloading - for using the heavier bullets the 300 win mag has the edge IMO.
WSM cases (a least in 7mm) are good for the medium weight bullets, but the long heavier projectiles tend to seat to deeply into the cases.
Unless you are trading the 300win mag, i dont see any real benefit to have both(300wsm and 300win mag).
Have you thought about perhaps a 270wsm .. that would make a good addition to the family..
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I also have the Browning Stainless Stalker in 300WSM.
As much as I love the caliber, it cannot do anything a regular 300 win mag can. Ammo til this day is still about $10/box more for the WSM, and I dont know why cause its been around long enough now that ammo prices should have dropped.
If you like a nice compact 22-24" barrel, in a light rifle, then the WSM is the way to go...keeping in mind that recoil is always gonna be more in a lighter weight rifle.
One thing thats nice about the WSM is that it rivals the ballistics of the win mag, while using less powder in the case, but if you wanna go higher then 180gr, the win mag is the answer
(WSM dont handle 200 grains well cause you have to seat them so deep and you lose powder room)
I could go on and on about these 2...but I think you get the main idea!!
Either one is a bad choice!!
P.S.
What kinda win mag do you own?
As much as I love the caliber, it cannot do anything a regular 300 win mag can. Ammo til this day is still about $10/box more for the WSM, and I dont know why cause its been around long enough now that ammo prices should have dropped.
If you like a nice compact 22-24" barrel, in a light rifle, then the WSM is the way to go...keeping in mind that recoil is always gonna be more in a lighter weight rifle.
One thing thats nice about the WSM is that it rivals the ballistics of the win mag, while using less powder in the case, but if you wanna go higher then 180gr, the win mag is the answer
(WSM dont handle 200 grains well cause you have to seat them so deep and you lose powder room)
I could go on and on about these 2...but I think you get the main idea!!
Either one is a bad choice!!
P.S.
What kinda win mag do you own?
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I went and bought a 300 RUM last spring, after already owning, yes a 300 WSM.
Dont ask me why...Its An Obsession
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And my RUM has less "Felt Recoil" then my WSM....10Lbs Scoped,Compared to around 7lbs Scoped...Absorbs the recoil very nicely(exactly why I wanted it heavy, besides its not something you wanna lug all day anyways, Treestand Rifle
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...more of a big push/shove, as the wsm is more snappy and saucey)
Believe it or not, the RUM is more of a pleasure to shoot from the bench.
But again if you want heavy power, in a compact package, you gotta sacrafice something in return(Felt Recoil) IMO
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Dont ask me why...Its An Obsession
And my RUM has less "Felt Recoil" then my WSM....10Lbs Scoped,Compared to around 7lbs Scoped...Absorbs the recoil very nicely(exactly why I wanted it heavy, besides its not something you wanna lug all day anyways, Treestand Rifle
Believe it or not, the RUM is more of a pleasure to shoot from the bench.
But again if you want heavy power, in a compact package, you gotta sacrafice something in return(Felt Recoil) IMO
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If you like your 300 Win Mag and shoot it well, keep it, unless you have a surplus of unwanted cash. The ballistic difference is rather small. The moose/bear will never be able to tell the difference.
Depending on where you buy your ammo there can be a large difference as some dealers are charging inflated prices for their WSM ammo.
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It starts out at roughly $10 more per box of 20 Super-x,Federal blue box.
As far as the premium WSM bullets being inflated...
It runs consistently higher then the win mag straight across the board IMO
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[quote name='benelli' date='08 June 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1276040854' post='415']
Stick with the 300 win mag pretty much the same specs but with less recoil.
Benelli...
Are you saying that the 300 win mag has less recoil then the WSM???
If So, I'd have to disagree with ya!!
300 WSM (180 at 2970) 8.25lb rifle 23.8 ft lbs recoil
.300 Win. Mag. (180 at 2960) 8.5lb rifle 25.9 ft lbs recoil
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Stick with the 300 win mag pretty much the same specs but with less recoil.
Benelli...
Are you saying that the 300 win mag has less recoil then the WSM???
If So, I'd have to disagree with ya!!
300 WSM (180 at 2970) 8.25lb rifle 23.8 ft lbs recoil
.300 Win. Mag. (180 at 2960) 8.5lb rifle 25.9 ft lbs recoil
Sry wonsky should have been clearer ive tried out quite a few 300 mags and 300 wsm and have gotten more recoil from the 300 wsm but then again with a limb saver butt cusion on most of the 300 win mags there was a big difference. The tompson centerfire shot so sweet. Saving money to get of my own.
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You got more "Felt Recoil" outta the WSM,only cause it was in a lighter rifle, And yes them limbsavers would help tame your win mags as well!!
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Thanks for the replys everyone. The 300 win mag i am talking about is just the remington 710. I only bought it for the chance at a moose, which hasn't happened yet, but hoping this year might be my year! I used it all last fall though for hunting coyote and love it but i'm just not a fan of the 710. I am looking to trade it which is why i am asking about the 300wsm. Its a great gun for hauling around on the 4 wheeler and not getting real upset if it gets dirty, i am just finding that its getting sloppy in the action. I see alot of used 270's around, any reason for that?
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710's Are One Of Thee Worse Pieces Of Garbage(cause I dont wanna swear) That Were Ever Made!!!
Sell It Off, And Dont Look Back!!!
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710 - i agree with wonsky.
Nothing wrong with the 270win, low recoil, nice shooting cartridge.
depending what ya want to spend
Stevens mmakes the model 200 which is prob the best bargain price rifle around.IMO (last time i looked - $369.00)
I also find the price of the wsm ammo a bit hefty, 45.00 - 70.00 per 20 depending on brand/type of ammo.
(if your going WSM and want to shoot much, id recommend getting into reloading)
Nothing wrong with the 270win, low recoil, nice shooting cartridge.
depending what ya want to spend
Stevens mmakes the model 200 which is prob the best bargain price rifle around.IMO (last time i looked - $369.00)
I also find the price of the wsm ammo a bit hefty, 45.00 - 70.00 per 20 depending on brand/type of ammo.
(if your going WSM and want to shoot much, id recommend getting into reloading)
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Nothing wrong with granddad's ol' 30-30.
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I shot alot of game with a good old 30-30 can't beat it for a bush gun!
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She's Danndee Like Candee Instead 100 Yards...4 Shhhhore Ca'monnnnn!!
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LOL! What can I say that the expert hasn't already said? LOLWhere's My Boy Bull's Eye....He Loves The WSM!!!
Dont Ya Pal...Hawoooooooooooo 4 Shhhhhhhhore Ca'monnnnnnn![]()
Not for the wannabe hunter, simply too much of a gun for most uses, but if you enjoy shooting long distances, the ballistics are fantastic on a heavier grain load, the knock down power is incredible and yes Wonsky....I'm back HAWWWWWOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!.....will let you know after July 12 if there are any takers for your WSM haha!
Did I mention it absolutely has to be a Tikka?.....
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