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I was wondering if anyone would like to share any success or failure stories of trying to improve deer nutrition by growing foodplots or by putting out any minerals or attractants? I have tried a couple of things and one of the best products I have used is called buck bran. I got it from a cabela's in U.S. and I usually read the bag, research the ingredients and forget about it. This stuff actually brought deer in. I made four little piles as per the bags instructions and the 3rd day it was all gone. I have a picture of 4 different bucks all eating this stuff up. I couldn't believe what I saw. I haven't tried to get any more, and since I just use salt licks. Every product out there seems to boast results and they want you to buy a 20 lb bag for $100.00.
just thought I'd start and see if anybody has had any experience to share?
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I would like to know what really works too.
I bought a bag of "stuff" mixed it into the soil as directed,
would have had the same results by burying the $$.
Guys, there's a real good thread on just this subject over on Nova Scotia Hunting and they seem to be having some great results with the rackstacker products especially their mineral fountains. Here's the link

http://novascotiahunting.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38-rack-stacker-mineral/

We've got two of these mineral fountains out(here in NB) with some activity but not a great amount. The rackstacker products are sold at the sur gain Feeds and needs store on the exibition grounds in Fredericton.

Bill G.
I have 2 Sweetlix deer mineral blocks we bought at the animal supplement store on rothesay ave, saint john (forget the name of the store). The blocks are 25 lbs each and were about 25 bucks. The deer seem to like them, you can see where they have been kicking at it. Also have some trail cam pics of deer at them. Only had trail cams out for a week and have 3 different times when the deer have been at it, all during daylight hours.
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Last fall I got one of those "Acorn rage Infused" by Wild Game Innovations. I took it out of the container and screwed it into the stump and there it sat until it completely dissolved and the deer never touched it.
Maybe if it was set out in the summer months, a person would have better luck.
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I have 2 or the rackstacker blue powder out. Had 1 out for a week might check it tonight. The guys on the NS sight seem to be having some luck. Ill keep you posted on it though. Nice to here about NB guys using it though.
Went to shur gain feeds and needs and got a bag of Rack Stacker Glory 16.00$ total
The fountain was 35 +tax, ouch, says it lasts a year (except if a bear gets it).
So I went cheap and I'll find a stump tomorrow and put it out and we'll see.
I'll let the forum know how it works for me.

Anyone have any action with the stuff your using??
I personally haven't found anything that works better than apples, corn or grain depending on the area. Atleast for the $$$$ they want for the fancy stuff
I put out the blue mineral fountain from rack stacker last week, Checked the camera after 3 days and already have lots of action at the site, I put a bag of apples out also just to get some scent in the area, So far i have around 4-6 does and three nice bucks in it so far. I am very impressed to say the least. Tommoroy im gonna go check the camera again and ill add some photos when i can
I have a mineral site with Imperal Whitetail 30-06. it is doing well with deer this year 3 bucks 2 does 1 with young one I poured it on a old stump and refresh every other week mixing mineral into soil around stump. Last year I was getting bears and rabbits also.
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Went to shur gain feeds and needs and got a bag of Rack Stacker Glory 16.00$ total
The fountain was 35 +tax, ouch, says it lasts a year (except if a bear gets it).
So I went cheap and I'll find a stump tomorrow and put it out and we'll see.
I'll let the forum know how it works for me.

Anyone have any action with the stuff your using??
yeah i was lookin' at that stuff myself .Be interesting to see how it works for ya.
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Good homemade mix is Dicalcium Phosphate, Trace Mineral and Stock Salt at a 1:2:1 ratio.

It is the salt that they are after. Mineral mixes have never been shown to improve antler growth but then again it can't hurt either and you can get some good summer pics on licks.



This is a lick I put out this summer, one of three, which are getting used by *****, porcupines, bears, deer and I got 1 coyote pic but I think he was just checking what else was using it


Got in an acre plot of soybeans the other day in anticipation of the rain on Wednesday. Hopefully we won't get any hard frosts till after the bow opener so I can hunt it. I like to stagger the bean planting every few weeks to have some coming on all the time. I still have 6 acres left to put in of beans, brassicas and perennials for the fall. I have three done and 4 more to do
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Checked my Rack Stacker yesterday NO results. put out a couple of LBS of corn
So we'll see what else happens
its been 2 weeks since I put it out
Well after seeing all the pics from here and the NS forum,I picked myself a bag of Rack Stacker min Glory and a bag of Walk and Toss for late august.My stand is in a small orchard and might as well give it a try,hopefully it can only help
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Good homemade mix is Dicalcium Phosphate, Trace Mineral and Stock Salt at a 1:2:1 ratio.

It is the salt that they are after. Mineral mixes have never been shown to improve antler growth but then again it can't hurt either and you can get some good summer pics on licks.



This is a lick I put out this summer, one of three, which are getting used by *****, porcupines, bears, deer and I got 1 coyote pic but I think he was just checking what else was using it


Got in an acre plot of soybeans the other day in anticipation of the rain on Wednesday. Hopefully we won't get any hard frosts till after the bow opener so I can hunt it. I like to stagger the bean planting every few weeks to have some coming on all the time. I still have 6 acres left to put in of beans, brassicas and perennials for the fall. I have three done and 4 more to do
Dicalcium Phosphate, Trace Mineral and Stock Salt at a 1:2:1 ratio.
Where can you buy these items? Does anyone make their own cover scents?
Any feed supply store carries them, shurgain, co-op, etc.
I found this a while back. Haven't tried it. Thoughts?

HOMEMADE DEER MINERAL RECIPE
by Allen "horntagger" Morris

This was passed to me from a private land conservationist from Missouri Department of Conservation in the county I have land in. This is just one example of how working with any game and fish department can benefit you. So now I am passing it along to you. You will be amazed on how well this works.
The ultimate goal of mineral supplements in deer management is to increase antler size and improve overall health of deer herds by providing minerals or trace minerals that may be lacking in a given area.

Although the jury is still out on effects of mineral supplements on wild deer populations since most studies have been on pen raised deer. Studies on wild population have been inconclusive and to a degree the same on pen raised deer due to other variables such as supplemental feeding that takes place in these areas. The direct benefits will probably be far greater in certain regions that lack certain trace minerals in the soil and plants.

One mixture or home recipe of deer minerals we recommend to landowners is a mix of one part Dicalcium Phosphate, 2 parts trace mineral salt (loose), and 1 part loose stock salt. All of these are available to purchase at most local feed and farm supply stores.

Just to give you a little background on these minerals and what they are designed to do lets start with the Dicalcium Phosphate

Dicalcium phosphate is used primarily as dairy cattle feed additive and other animal feeds. It promotes feed digestion, weight gain, and milk production, which is obviously beneficial to a lactating doe deer. Dicalcium phosphate contains roughly between 18 and 21 percent phosphorus and 19 to 23 percent calcium.

You're probably asking why this is important by now. Well if your talking about growing antlers on deer you need to take a look at what is the make up of a deer antler.

Hardened antlers contain 40 to 50 percent organic matter from mostly proteins while the most abundant minerals consist of calcium and phosphorus. The demands for these minerals on a daily basis can be significant for antler production.

In addition, a lactating doe's milk contains high percentages of both calcium and phosphorus to pass on to their young, also causing a significant mineral drain on the doe. What makes all this significant is the fact that phosphorous cannot be synthesized by the body so it must be provided in needed levels in the animals diet. This is where a mineral mix such as this could be very valuable if an area is lacking in these naturally.

Trace mineral salts do two things for deer. The first and foremost is it does have the salt/sodium to attract the deer and promote the use of the mineral. Secondly, it provides the trace minerals such as magnesium and potassium that are very important to herd health but are not found in significant quantities like others.

Stock salt is again like part of the above. It has the sodium to attract deer to the minerals. Most mineral mixes have salt as their most abundant ingredient since a mix of just phosphorus, calcium, and other trace minerals have little attraction to deer once mixed with the soil.

As for directions of use we suggest using a 3-pound coffee can to measure out 1 part dicalcium phoshate, 2 parts trace mineral salt, and 1 part stock salt. Mix all these together once ready to use but keep components separate during storage. Dig a hole in the soil about 36 inches wide and 6 inches deep and mix the mineral well with the soil.

This should be replenished after 6 months and then once a year thereafter. Most use seems to be during the spring and summer months on mineral licks. It's a good idea to keep these areas replenished and stocked in the same spot to maintain use.

Because of shedding of the summer coat begins this time of year, the deer need the salt, and maybe next year you will get this out early in the year to help with antler growth and fawn health.

Mineral Lick November 14th, 2001

WHITETAIL DEER HOMEMADE MINERAL MIX RECIPE
Printable version
Ingredients: Makes 200 lbs. for about $23.00

1 part Di-calcium phosphate, this is a dairy feed additive bought at feed stores.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $11.00 you need one bag.

2 parts Trace mineral salt, the red and loos kind without the medications.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $5.00 you need two bags.

1 part Stock salt, ice cream salt.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $2.00 you need one bag.

Directions:

-Use a 3 pound or similar size coffee can to use as your measure for each part of the mix.

-Mix all together well but not until read to use, keep ingredients separate until ready to put to use.

-Dig or tear up a circle in the soil about 36 inches wide and about 6 inches deep.

-Mix your mineral mixture with the soil.

Maintenance:

-Replenish in 6 months with fresh supply of mineral, and then each year there after.

Hope to see you in the woods this weekend. horntagger

Helpful hints: One is best time to put it out is March/April and I put all 200 lbs in one hole. Also I like a water source to be within 100 yards.

If you put it out this time just put 100lbs won't do as much for them now. But will be a slight draw. Good Luck
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If you read back up a bit that is the same recipe I posted and use myself. It is as good as any out there. I like to top up with a little more salt, just personal preference, since it is the salt they are after. They get the mineral by trying to get the salt. Mineral is a little bitter and they wont touch it without salt or some other additive to make it more palatable.
I put out rack stacker on a rotten log july 12 and as of today ...no action
put a couple of gallons of corn out and some c'mere deer on another log today

now we'll wait and see what happens.
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Good homemade mix is Dicalcium Phosphate, Trace Mineral and Stock Salt at a 1:2:1 ratio.

It is the salt that they are after. Mineral mixes have never been shown to improve antler growth but then again it can't hurt either and you can get some good summer pics on licks.

Does that mean that if all you want is pictures you only need to put out salt? or does the other additions help too? or is there an attactant you can put in it and draw deer to it?
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