Sub MOA

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Bowtech

Discussion Starter · Aug 9, 2010

Well I never had a real accurate gun before but the boys wanted a rifle so I bought one earlier this year. I kind of got the bug that if I was going to shoot one of them lightning rods then I wanted to be able to shoot some longer distances and make things interesting. I ended up picking up a Remington 700XCR Compact Tactical in .308. After breaking in the barrel, sighting in, etc. I shot my first 3 shot Sub MOA group ever (.75") at 100 yards on factory ammo. Mind you my 10 shot group didn't look near as pretty

The trigger is REALLY heavy so I was spreading them horizontally a little. I had a 5 shot group with a 2.5" horizontal spread almost in a perfect line

. I'm going to have it lightened down to about 2.5-3lbs and see if I can do better. I use a pod but no rear bag. I was a little worried that I might get a lemon and not be able to keep them around an MOA with factory ammo but I think if I do my part the gun is capable. I use the same routine with it as I do shooting the bow which seems to work well. I position my body so that when I bottom out on my breathing then the crosshairs come perfect to center. What do you guys do for a preshot routine that works for you. I'd like to get better and maybe look at competing next year in some TR F-class shooting locally. I'll have to work on the distances with regard to wind and drop but that will be part of the fun.

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Cdog

· #2 · Aug 11, 2010

Well you are lucky that there is likely more aftermarket for the 700 than anything, get a trigger!
Generally a group is considered 5 shots.
Do you reload?
Check out sinclair's website, lots of great shooting /reloading stuff,
Cdog.

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Bowtech

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 12, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

Cdog said:
Well you are lucky that there is likely more aftermarket for the 700 than anything, get a trigger!
Generally a group is considered 5 shots.
Do you reload?
Check out sinclair's website, lots of great shooting /reloading stuff,
Cdog.

Ha only you real shooters use 5 shot groups

the purists are worse than bowhunters

I saw one guys saying that nothing less than a 10 shot group should be considered

I notice all the manufacturers use 3 shot groups for bullet performance but that's probably marketing to keep those odd flyers from screwing up your group

The trigger in it is a 40x so it is a pretty good trigger without spending a couple/three hundred on a timney. I had the brain fart last night that I would do my own trigger adjustment. Oh I did the research and all, stripped it down without punching the trigger group off the receiver cause I don't have a punch set. Well went to clean it up and put it all back together for adjusting and lo and behold you can't get the trigger stop screw back in without taking the whole trigger assembly off because you have to lift the sear in order for the sear spring to back off enough to get the stop back in.

I'll get the hang of this gun thing yet

maybe. I'll get a set of punches today. Maybe I'll stop at Sussex Outfitters today and get him to punch it and I'll pick up the punches another time for the next brain fart I get.

No I don't reload...yet, but that will change soon as I get through these first couple hundred rounds. Would have been smarter to start before I bought all the ammo, could have probably saved the cost of the reloading euipment already

PS who's sinclair and where do I find the webpage?

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Cdog

· #4 · Aug 12, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

sinclair
If you do start reloading get a forster coax press rite from the start, instead of buying 3 cheap presses like I did....
Buy lapua brass!!! Period...Brass
I found lime in St.john for 26.50 a ton....
Cdog
P.S. the best place to learn about shooting that I have found, make sure to peek at the forums....6mmbr
308 info....308

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Smidgy

· #5 · Nov 3, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

If your going to compete and at longer distances I recommend trying to set your gun up for its MPBR(Maximum Point Blank Range) it is stated on most handload tables and such or even some factory loads, but even still it is good to test. If your MPBR is 303yrds lets say(that is about what mine is .270 win), then at 303 yrds your bullet will cross its theoretical line from the barrel again(rise then fall)

Now guns like mine with a ~300 yrd MPBR work nicely on standard 100 & 200 Yard targets, the bullet will rise to its maximum position at a little past 150yrds that way the shot for 100 and 200 yards is at a really close hieght, meaning if you sight in for 100yrds, then the 200 yard shot will need little if any correction. Anything past 200 yrds you need to know your gun/load and take into effect the wind etc.

To let you know I am just getting into it myself, I just picked up my Browning X Bolt .270 win and only have about 15 shots through it. Having someone explain to you how to sight a gun in right really made a difference for me.

I do the same thing with my breathing seems to work for me!

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REM7600

· #6 · Nov 4, 2010

Bowtech said:
Well I never had a real accurate gun before but the boys wanted a rifle so I bought one earlier this year. I kind of got the bug that if I was going to shoot one of them lightning rods then I wanted to be able to shoot some longer distances and make things interesting. I ended up picking up a Remington 700XCR Compact Tactical in .308. After breaking in the barrel, sighting in, etc. I shot my first 3 shot Sub MOA group ever (.75") at 100 yards on factory ammo. Mind you my 10 shot group didn't look near as pretty

The trigger is REALLY heavy so I was spreading them horizontally a little. I had a 5 shot group with a 2.5" horizontal spread almost in a perfect line

. I'm going to have it lightened down to about 2.5-3lbs and see if I can do better. I use a pod but no rear bag. I was a little worried that I might get a lemon and not be able to keep them around an MOA with factory ammo but I think if I do my part the gun is capable. I use the same routine with it as I do shooting the bow which seems to work well. I position my body so that when I bottom out on my breathing then the crosshairs come perfect to center. What do you guys do for a preshot routine that works for you. I'd like to get better and maybe look at competing next year in some TR F-class shooting locally. I'll have to work on the distances with regard to wind and drop but that will be part of the fun.

dandy rifle and initial groups. Try it without the bipod and off the bags and I bet your groups will get even better.

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