[ARSENO]

I think I'm going to do something different and start doing my big game hunting with those modern muzzleloaders. I'm courious to how many people use muzzleloaders during deer gun season or for bear? And also some tips aswell !!

 

[Hunttoomuch]

I have been thinking about that as well Arseno, I think it would be alot of fun plus a great challenge as well. I dont know much about them but I am looking forward to reading the responses.

 

[Jim]

I'm also considerring buying a muzzle loader with my tax return this year.

 

[Big Bore]

I'd consider getting one if like other places they had a specific season for one . But I don't have that much time to use what I have now so it doesn't apeal to switch , I would just like to have more options to go when time permited.

 

[hawkenhunter]

I'd consider getting one if like other places they had a specific season for one . But I don't have that much time to use what I have now so it doesn't apeal to switch , I would just like to have more options to go when time permited.

Hmmmm,sounds just like the crossbow debate eh?No special season/no interest,lol.

FWIW,I hunt with a muzzleloader....a REAL muzzleloader.....not one of those modern,plastic sabot,pistol bullet shooting,synthetic stocked,stainless barrel,scoped,pellet fed monstrosities.IMHO,Inlines are the crossbows of the muzzleloading world."Gee,I want to hunt the extra opportunities offered by a ML season,but I want to use a scoped rifle that prints 2" groups at 200 yards." .....and the debate rages on.

Getting back to the topic though,yes I hunted with a fruntstuffer exclusively last year and have been doing so off and on for 10 years or so.2009 I hunted only with bow and tagged out in week 5.I haven't dusted off my 30-06 for 2 years now and likely may not ever again unless I'm going moose hunting?I find the ML is a nice compromise and a challenge that falls somewhere between the bow and the centerfire?It's fun,it makes big smoke and big holes.

A couple of my hunting buds think I'm nuts to "handicap" myself like that but I'm eating sausage this winter and they are eating tag soup,lol.

 

[hawkenhunter]

T/C Hawken .45

left to right,.45cal/250gr TC maxiball,recovered .45 cal/325gr HP Buffalo Bullet,.451 roundball

The 325gr HP was recovered from under the hide of 2010 buck's far shoulder,40 yards,both shoulders and lungs smashed,dropped in tracks,pushed with 90gr FFFg Goex He was on the ground twitching when the smoke cleared.

 

[Bradley]

Hmmmm,sounds just like the crossbow debate eh?No special season/no interest,lol.

FWIW,I hunt with a muzzleloader....a REAL muzzleloader.....not one of those modern,plastic sabot,pistol bullet shooting,synthetic stocked,stainless barrel,scoped,pellet fed monstrosities.IMHO,Inlines are the crossbows of the muzzleloading world."Gee,I want to hunt the extra opportunities offered by a ML season,but I want to use a scoped rifle that prints 2" groups at 200 yards." .....and the debate rages on.

Getting back to the topic though,yes I hunted with a fruntstuffer exclusively last year and have been doing so off and on for 10 years or so.2009 I hunted only with bow and tagged out in week 5.I haven't dusted off my 30-06 for 2 years now and likely may not ever again unless I'm going moose hunting?I find the ML is a nice compromise and a challenge that falls somewhere between the bow and the centerfire?It's fun,it makes big smoke and big holes.

A couple of my hunting buds think I'm nuts to "handicap" myself like that but I'm eating sausage this winter and they are eating tag soup,lol.

Not to put too sharp a point on it but I'd you look at the original poster and the two subsequent posts they were just guys looking for information to change things up from what they use now.

And to add to your comparitive effort many would call them the compound bow of the muzzleloading.

 

[hawkenhunter]

Not to put too sharp a point on it but I'd you look at the original poster and the two subsequent posts they were just guys looking for information to change things up from what they use now.

And to add to your comparitive effort many would call them the compound bow of the muzzleloading.

Sorry Bradley,I just can't help myself.

I guess I just view inlines with the same disdain that I view crossbows.......yuk.

The "inline vs. traditional" debate is strikingly similair to the "crossbow vs. traditional" debate.If I wanted to use a scoped,single shot rifle capable of 250yard shots then I'd buy a Ruger#1.If a person wants to challenge themself with a primitive weapon,then use a flint or capper,much like if you want to hunt bow season,buy a bow and don't try to weasle your way in with a crossbow.IMHO,inlines are much like crossbows in the sense that they are a cheaters way of getting into extra seasons in most places.

 

[mortimer]

Sorry Bradley,I just can't help myself.

I guess I just view inlines with the same disdain that I view crossbows.......yuk.

The "inline vs. traditional" debate is strikingly similair to the "crossbow vs. traditional" debate.If I wanted to use a scoped,single shot rifle capable of 250yard shots then I'd buy a Ruger#1.If a person wants to challenge themself with a primitive weapon,then use a flint or capper,much like if you want to hunt bow season,buy a bow and don't try to weasle your way in with a crossbow.IMHO,inlines are much like crossbows in the sense that they are a cheaters way of getting into extra seasons in most places.

Good evening GIRLSCOUT,

 

[Wardo]

Good evening GIRLSCOUT,

I was thinking the same thing when I first read it, but I didn't see any mention of "old iron sights", so I'm not sure

 

[mortimer]

I was thinking the same thing when I first read it, but I didn't see any mention of "old iron sights", so I'm not sure

Guaranteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!

 

[mortimer]

I've had a muzzleloader for 30 plus years. I bought it in 1982 it was the first brand new gun I owned. It is a
54 cal T/C hawken same as the one in the picture above, only difference is the cal.
The old girl has seen a lot of lead. I shot one of my first deer with that gun.
This winter I bought a muzzleloader barrel for my T/C Pro Hunter. There are a few so called purest that try to tell me that this is not the same as my old hawken. I call B.S. on that one. They are both loaded from the muzzle, they both take a cap or primer and both lob a hefty chunk of lead at the target.

As far as shooting 200 yard 2" groups either will do it with a real good load work up and a heck of a lot of practice. Would I try it with either one not likely. Time to load 10 to 15 sec with a lot of practice and a quick load.
Muzzleloader Hunting is a blast no matter which one you use. Finding the right load combo. and practice will make you a very satisfied hunter.
So no matter which one you choose have fun with it and don't let anyone tell you you are not shooting a muzzleloader

 

[Bam]

Hmmmm,sounds just like the crossbow debate eh?No special season/no interest,lol.

FWIW,I hunt with a muzzleloader....a REAL muzzleloader.....not one of those modern,plastic sabot,pistol bullet shooting,synthetic stocked,stainless barrel,scoped,pellet fed monstrosities.IMHO,Inlines are the crossbows of the muzzleloading world."Gee,I want to hunt the extra opportunities offered by a ML season,but I want to use a scoped rifle that prints 2" groups at 200 yards." .....and the debate rages on.

Getting back to the topic though,yes I hunted with a fruntstuffer exclusively last year and have been doing so off and on for 10 years or so.2009 I hunted only with bow and tagged out in week 5.I haven't dusted off my 30-06 for 2 years now and likely may not ever again unless I'm going moose hunting?I find the ML is a nice compromise and a challenge that falls somewhere between the bow and the centerfire?It's fun,it makes big smoke and big holes.

A couple of my hunting buds think I'm nuts to "handicap" myself like that but I'm eating sausage this winter and they are eating tag soup,lol.

i thought i had u straightend out on this lmao...can not believe ur still at this...i thought u were still trying to figure out the missfiring lmao...do u want to borrow my 50 cal in-line lol it still loads from the muzzle lol...and are u riding a horse or driving a truck...cheers to u V

 

[hawkenhunter]

i thought i had u straightend out on this lmao...can not believe ur still at this...i thought u were still trying to figure out the missfiring lmao...do u want to borrow my 50 cal in-line lol it still loads from the muzzle lol...and are u riding a horse or driving a truck...cheers to u V

LOL,well the misfiring was a simple fix,turns out I did indeed have an old spent cap jammed up in the hammer that was really hard to see,hence why I missed it the first 17 times I looked.

......and I'm riding a horse and towing a mule,just like Jeremiah.

Watch yer topknot.

 

[ARSENO]

Hmmmm,sounds just like the crossbow debate eh?No special season/no interest,lol.

FWIW,I hunt with a muzzleloader....a REAL muzzleloader.....not one of those modern,plastic sabot,pistol bullet shooting,synthetic stocked,stainless barrel,scoped,pellet fed monstrosities.IMHO,Inlines are the crossbows of the muzzleloading world."Gee,I want to hunt the extra opportunities offered by a ML season,but I want to use a scoped rifle that prints 2" groups at 200 yards." .....and the debate rages on.

Wow didnt mean to twist you arm the wrong way by thinking of getting a muzzleloader. Like the other guys i'm simply looking to do something different during REGULAR RIFLE SEASON. Not looking for extra time

. Just seems like a nice challenge.

 

[hawkenhunter]

Wow didnt mean to twist you arm the wrong way by thinking of getting a muzzleloader. Like the other guys i'm simply looking to do something different during REGULAR RIFLE SEASON. Not looking for extra time

. Just seems like a nice challenge.

It is a nice challenge,like I said previously,I consider it to fall somewhere between bowhunting and modern rifle hunting,and with that I'd congratulate anyone that's willing to take up that challenge and handicap themselves with a 1 shot,relatively close range rifle.I'd encourage you to go for it and am even willing to offer help or advice where I can in regards to traditional ML shooting,I just don't have much use for or any interest or attraction whatsoever to in-lines.IMHO,the similairities between inlines and xbows as far as taking advantage of extra seasons where they are offered is undeniable.It seems as though the firearms industry is on a mission to make modern "muzzleloaders" as "un-muzzleloader-like" as possible with advances in bullets,sabots,propellants,range compensating scopes,and on and on.For the most part,it's hunters in places that do have muzzleloader seasons that have no real interest in traditional blackpowder shooting,only taking advantage of extended seasons that are driving the demand for centerfire comparable accuracy.In other words,they want the extra hunting opportunities with none of the handicaps....very much like the xbow crowd.

There's alot more to blackpowder shooting and developing accurate loads for individual rifles than there is to the cookie cutter,drop in a couple pellets and have at'er inlines.It should come as no surprise I suppose that Generation Instant Gratification is demanding centerfire accuracy and convenience in the weapons that barely meet the legal criteria to take advantage of seasons that were created with something altogether different in mind.Kudos to the states,PA for one,that have taken the initiative in preserving the tradition and spirit in which ML seasons were created in the first place by only allowing non-scoped,black powder sidelocks to be used. Pyrodex breathing,plastic wrapped,pistol bullet spewing,telescopic sight topped,209 shotgun primed, 250 yard,3" group printing frontstuffers are restricted to the general rifle season where they belong.......

........along with xbows,lol.

 

[trapper2011]

i know some guys that are traditional bow hunters and don't like componds..

 

[Woolly]

Wow didnt mean to twist you arm the wrong way by thinking of getting a muzzleloader. Like the other guys i'm simply looking to do something different during REGULAR RIFLE SEASON. Not looking for extra time

. Just seems like a nice challenge.

Sorry for jumpimng on this thread a little late but I'll throw my 2 cents in here.

Find someone with both types of muzzleloaders that will allow you to try each. Shoot each and ask yourself which will give you more satisfaction.

Personally, I prefer hunting with a traditional muzzle loader (cap lock or flintlock). I appreciate the ease of use of the modern inlines but don't see a lot of difference in them and a modern centerfire. Nice high power scopes, pretty much guaranteed 100% ignition, same shape and feel, ease of loading as many, dare I say most inline shooters/hunters use the pellets, jacketed hollow point bullets in sabots and shotgun primers. Might as well use a 45/70 or 12 ga with sabot slugs.

Using a traditional muzzleloader with cast lead balls and real black powder makes for a memorable hunt whether you get something or not. When I got into muzzle loading a friend told me something I believe is true. He said "every muzzle loading hunt is a memorable one, Not every modern firearm hunt is".
For me that has held to be true. I fondly recall each muzzle loader hunt.

I don't think the modern in line will offer you much more in the way of a challenge other than being a single shot. You can do the same thing with your modern centerfire rifle/shotgun by only loading one round in the chamber and keeping the magazine empty.

The choice is up to you. For me I will use my traditional muzzle loader, genuine black powder and lead balls.

 

[Fulabul]

is all i use, have two both .50cal flinters,a Lyman deerstalker and a T/C Firestorm. They're great. shoot maxi-balls out of both, 90 grains of 2f for charge and 4f in the pans. they're like ultra modern antiques. lots of fun!

 

[weebuckk]

i recently just picked up a short barrel 50 cal. black powder, looks crazy and looks like it mite hurt but be fun when i try it out.